Some of the ‘plastic rings’ shown involve the use of silicone between rings. As far as I am concerned the other kits are pretty much worthless. Specifically, the Set-Rite Extender Kit is the only product you featured that is Code Approved out of all of them. I read your article on Toilet Flange Too Low? and I believe you have some of the facts wrong on a number of the products you reviewed. Installation Instructions: Click here (very basic – they need to have the detail instructions online!) Product: Wax-free Bowl Kit 3″ or 4″, 3″ only or 4″ only. In addition, unlike PVC or copper waste pipes, cast iron pipes tend to cling on to aggregates in its pipe, which might also contribute to poor-fitting. According to Fernco’s customer rep, FTS-4 works with cast iron pipes with inner diameter between 3.96″ to 4.02″ but some customers reported that their cast iron waste pipes measured 3.75″ I.D. Lastly, some users have complained that in contrast to Fernco’s advertising, this product does not fit well with certain cast iron waste pipes ( click here for complaints). If it were me, I would opt to install a new one and not risk getting a leak Maybe that’s true but unseating a toilet places a lot of pulling stress on that narrow adhesive surface due to the barbed connection. Concern #4 – Fernco’s advertising states that “… Toilet can be removed and reinstalled with the same Fernco Wax Free Toilet Seal still attached…”.(d) Head or Hydrostatic pressure failure – Increased fluid pressure due to clogs (or even using a plunger) can potentially burst weak spots in between “seams”. Since there is no solid bottom surface to squeeze the top ring, that could potentially prevent the top ring from being seated tightly against the bowl horn. However, in the case of a stacked wax rings, top wax ring is forced down on another wax ring that is softer than a toilet flange surface. (c) Top wax ring seal failure – I’d imagine you want a solid “squishing” effect on the top (toilet bowl horn) and the bottom (toilet flange). (B) Bonding failure between the toilet wax rings – with the toilet being slightly wobbly due to uneven tile floor, it is conceivable that the vertical pressure applied on these wax rings are not even, possibly causing gaps in certain spots between wax rings. It would only take a slight bump on the toilet to throw these bolts sideways, possibly damaging the wax ring, creating gaps or even possibly cracking the toilet ceramic. (A) Horizontal racking force on the toilet flange bolts – With approximately 1.5″ space between the flange and the bottom of the toilet, flange bolts are not supported horizontally. After some thinking, I came up with three possible flaws: The entire setup can be purchased under $10 and can be installed with relative ease (although it was a nerve wrecking process for me because you won’t know if the proper seal was made until you flush the toilet).īut in reviewing the double stacked wax ring configuration in detail, I started to wonder if there were some inherent design flaws or weaknesses that attributed to my (sewer gas) situation. It’s a simple configuration of one regular wax ring stacked on top by another “extra thick” wax ring with a built-in flange. This is probably the most common path taken by DIYers.
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